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Why not fire Cito now?
« on: February 27, 2010, 03:56:04 PM »
What exactly is the point in having him as out manager this year? He already has said numerous things that will stunt the growth of this team and perhaps mess with too many young players' heads long term:

1. Screwing with Snider for all of 2009 and then effectively telling him: you're going to be screwed with in 2010 by saying his spot was not guaranteed.

2. Announcing that Hill will bat 2nd, Lind 3rd and presumably Wells 4th despite the fact that Vernon's corpse has been playing CF for the past 2 years. All this pandering to veterans is counter-productive.

3.Not giving Romero the opening day start even though means for more to the team long-term than Marcum or Morrow. This isn't guaranteed, but I'd have to say that Tallet is going to be our 5th starter instead of Rzepczynski or Cecil, which is just plain stupid.

Cito's got to go . . . and my only question is: why waste another year with him being an idiot?

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2010, 04:06:03 PM »
Great question, one that apparently no one has an answer to. One of life's mysteries, I guess.

The other stuff, other than maybe the batting order question, probably don't all depend on Cito. of course, if Cito goes against what AA and the front office guys want, then maybe we'll all finally see an end to Cito's reign of terror.
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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2010, 04:17:20 PM »
Tallet is in the running for starting opening day!

I don't think they could find a worse man for this job.  He'd be fine managing the yankees or the red sox, but this young team is an anti Cito team.  I don't think anyone else would consider Jose Bautista for their corner outfield spot and leadoff hitter.  It wouldn't be so bad if it was clear AA was calling the shots but that does not appear to be the case.   I have to say he makes even less sense as an adviser.

When he was first rehired I thought for sure it was a publicity stunt.  Now is there anyone left who's seriously buying tickets to see Cito manage?  If there is and they publicly state this I'll glad buy a couple extra to games I would not attend to cancel this out. 

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2010, 05:07:36 PM »
The Cito wants to leave on his terms, and The Cito gets what the The Cito wants.

I wouldn't be surprised if he stepped down before October.

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2010, 08:39:25 PM »
They know they have no chance of competing this year so they want to let Cito finish out his contract.

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2010, 09:51:35 PM »
They know they have no chance of competing this year so they want to let Cito finish out his contract.
I don't want Cito friging with our future though.

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 09:22:51 AM »
I don't really get why CITO is blamed for the Travis Snider stuff.  He was held back by management so that they could guarantee another option year on him.  When he came back he played.  Furthermore, who cares if he has to "earn" a spot this year?  When did it start being okay to hand something to unproven rookies/second year players and make them complacent?

Make no mistake, I'd rather Cito be in the front office right now, but the Snider stuff means nothing to me.

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2010, 11:49:45 AM »
I think it'll be interesting to see who makes the 25 man roster.  That'll tell us who's running this ship, The Cito or The Boy Wonder AA.


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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2010, 12:11:44 PM »
Here is my take, the masses of casual baseball fans have fond memories of Cito and management has respect for him due to his World Series Victories. However, everyone in management knows he can't coach this team, but due to the masses loving him and management's respect of him, they want to give him a "transition" rather than a "firing" into his new job in the office.

Is that good for our young guys? No. But it's more of an image/"feeling" decision.
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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2010, 12:14:44 PM »
My hope is that they've already pegged Butters as the future manager and Cito's going to be his puppet for the year.

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 12:18:29 PM »
My hope is that they've already pegged Butters as the future manager and Cito's going to be his puppet for the year.

I believe the only reason he took a demotion this year was that the managers job has already been promised to him for 2011.

As for who's calling the shots it will be pretty sad if Cito in his last year gets more say then AA who is in his first full year in charge.

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 12:39:33 PM »
My hope is that they've already pegged Butters as the future manager and Cito's going to be his puppet for the year.


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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2010, 12:42:15 PM »
Because Beeston took AA aside and told him: you get pretty much free reign, but Cito gets to finish his contract.

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 12:47:09 PM »
I don't really get why CITO is blamed for the Travis Snider stuff.  He was held back by management so that they could guarantee another option year on him.  When he came back he played.  Furthermore, who cares if he has to "earn" a spot this year?  When did it start being okay to hand something to unproven rookies/second year players and make them complacent?

Make no mistake, I'd rather Cito be in the front office right now, but the Snider stuff means nothing to me.

I agree to a point, but when we are talking about having Jose Bautista get playing time over Snider, unless Snider is hitting .135 through spring training, I don't want to see Bautista on this roster ahead of Snider.  I dont' want to see John McDonald on this roster ahead of Snider.  I don't want to see E5 on this roster ahead of Snider.  I don't want to see bloody Vernon Wells get "hurt" every time he has an abysmal season.

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2010, 06:59:51 PM »

This is another reasons I want Butters to be the next manager, so we can post pictures of Butters all the time, and maybe make some t-shirts!

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2010, 08:51:00 AM »
My hope is that they've already pegged Butters as the future manager and Cito's going to be his puppet for the year.

This is kind of what I was thinking. They can't bring someone else in for a year because they want to give it to Butterfield, but for some reason they feel he needs another year. Whatever the case is, Butterfield SHOULD be the next manager of this team. He has earned it, and I'll be very surprised if he isn't.

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2010, 06:45:15 PM »
I agree to a point, but when we are talking about having Jose Bautista get playing time over Snider, unless Snider is hitting .135 through spring training, I don't want to see Bautista on this roster ahead of Snider.  I dont' want to see John McDonald on this roster ahead of Snider.  I don't want to see E5 on this roster ahead of Snider.  I don't want to see bloody Vernon Wells get "hurt" every time he has an abysmal season.

It seems to me now that the idea is to pay E5 to sit.  Bautista will start the year at 3B and Snider - if he earns it - will start in the OF.  I am not sure Bautista's ABs are going to be at Snider's expense.

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Re: Why not fire Cito now?
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2010, 06:58:50 PM »
It seems to me now that the idea is to pay E5 to sit.  Bautista will start the year at 3B and Snider - if he earns it - will start in the OF.  I am not sure Bautista's ABs are going to be at Snider's expense.

Are you basing this on the fact E5 is not healthy?

Well sitting Encarnacion is better then sitting Snider.  He at least has the chance to develop into a decent hitter even if he can't man 3rd base.  Bautista on the other hand does not have that chance.